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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-39274</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked at this site because I have eczema and vitiligo. I have had vitiligo for many years. I am 30 right now. The eczema just started 2 years ago. It is itchy! Vitiligo is more tolerable because it doesn&#039;t itch. It occurred to me recently that my eczema only shows up in the winter time. Could this be due to low levels of vitamin D I wondered. Because I also have vitiligo I wanted to see if others with vitiligo had low D levels. It sounds like a lot of you do. I am on day 3 of taking 6,000 iu of vitamin D, hoping this is an answer to both my eczema and vitiligo! I even brake the liquid capsules open and rub the D liquid onto my eczema rash. It is a little less inflamed so far. But this is just day three. We&#039;ll see...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at this site because I have eczema and vitiligo. I have had vitiligo for many years. I am 30 right now. The eczema just started 2 years ago. It is itchy! Vitiligo is more tolerable because it doesn&#8217;t itch. It occurred to me recently that my eczema only shows up in the winter time. Could this be due to low levels of vitamin D I wondered. Because I also have vitiligo I wanted to see if others with vitiligo had low D levels. It sounds like a lot of you do. I am on day 3 of taking 6,000 iu of vitamin D, hoping this is an answer to both my eczema and vitiligo! I even brake the liquid capsules open and rub the D liquid onto my eczema rash. It is a little less inflamed so far. But this is just day three. We&#8217;ll see&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jyoti</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-39270</link>
		<dc:creator>Jyoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 09:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I&#039;m a mom with a daughter who was diagnosed with Vit at 7 years old.  She is now 10.  She started with two spots on top of her eyelids and then within six months two spots on her eyelids.  I researched and took her to a derm at the Vitiligo clinic in our area (Vancouver, BC).  He said she has a mild case and not to worry, and sent us home with some protopic (told us to use it for at least 3 months on the affected areas, luckily it worked.  However, I have become a paranoid Mom and sometimes think I make matters worse because I am always looking for the spots to reappear or more to show up, I try not to be but I know I am.  Anyhow, I started her on Vitamin D supplements just 500 iu, and maybe it&#039;s a coincidence but her spot on her left eyelid is returning.  I am back to starting her Protopic which she hasn&#039;t used in 2 years.  I am at a loss, completely confused.  Maybe it&#039;s that she is prepubescent?  What do you think?  Should I stop the Vit D?  I travel often to Seattle do you know of a good Naturopath I could take her to? Sorry for bombarding you but I just don&#039;t want to take her to just anyone and make what is very mild, at the moment, much worse. BTW your blog is great thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I&#8217;m a mom with a daughter who was diagnosed with Vit at 7 years old.  She is now 10.  She started with two spots on top of her eyelids and then within six months two spots on her eyelids.  I researched and took her to a derm at the Vitiligo clinic in our area (Vancouver, BC).  He said she has a mild case and not to worry, and sent us home with some protopic (told us to use it for at least 3 months on the affected areas, luckily it worked.  However, I have become a paranoid Mom and sometimes think I make matters worse because I am always looking for the spots to reappear or more to show up, I try not to be but I know I am.  Anyhow, I started her on Vitamin D supplements just 500 iu, and maybe it&#8217;s a coincidence but her spot on her left eyelid is returning.  I am back to starting her Protopic which she hasn&#8217;t used in 2 years.  I am at a loss, completely confused.  Maybe it&#8217;s that she is prepubescent?  What do you think?  Should I stop the Vit D?  I travel often to Seattle do you know of a good Naturopath I could take her to? Sorry for bombarding you but I just don&#8217;t want to take her to just anyone and make what is very mild, at the moment, much worse. BTW your blog is great thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-39268</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 00:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting site.
I have vitiligo on hands, a patch on my face, armpits and now appearing on ankles and feet. I try not to worry too much about
how it is going to progress.  I also have fibromyalgia, fructose malabsorption and some degree of irritable bowel.  Fatigue is a big problem.  Also have moderately low levels of Vit D despite 
taking 2000us nearly every day for last 6 months.
I feel sure all these annoying conditions are connected.
About to try and find a truly holistic Doc.
One good thing is-no age spots on my hands! Fake tan much easier once area fully depigmented.
Good to read about all your experiences and good luck.
Maria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting site.<br />
I have vitiligo on hands, a patch on my face, armpits and now appearing on ankles and feet. I try not to worry too much about<br />
how it is going to progress.  I also have fibromyalgia, fructose malabsorption and some degree of irritable bowel.  Fatigue is a big problem.  Also have moderately low levels of Vit D despite<br />
taking 2000us nearly every day for last 6 months.<br />
I feel sure all these annoying conditions are connected.<br />
About to try and find a truly holistic Doc.<br />
One good thing is-no age spots on my hands! Fake tan much easier once area fully depigmented.<br />
Good to read about all your experiences and good luck.<br />
Maria</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer Carr</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-39111</link>
		<dc:creator>jennifer Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add to my previous post &amp; hope this helps someone else.....I have had thyroid disease for about 5yrs now.....&amp; only started noticing the vitiligo appear when I changed from Armour Thyroid medication to Synthroid &amp; my levels sent me the opposite direction to hyperthyroid. I am hoping that now getting back on Armour Thyroid &amp; getting my levels stable will help ???  Anyone notice anything similar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to my previous post &amp; hope this helps someone else&#8230;..I have had thyroid disease for about 5yrs now&#8230;..&amp; only started noticing the vitiligo appear when I changed from Armour Thyroid medication to Synthroid &amp; my levels sent me the opposite direction to hyperthyroid. I am hoping that now getting back on Armour Thyroid &amp; getting my levels stable will help ???  Anyone notice anything similar?</p>
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		<title>By: melissa</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-39110</link>
		<dc:creator>melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 04:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so derm just got biopsy back that showed vit. but all she gave me was allergy pills that make me so sleepy and told me to stay out of the sun. I too have very low vit. D levels so they put me on 50,000 iu for 6 weeks then they will recheck levels.  My vit. started on vulva area found it during my annual female exam. Also on my hands i have little water blisters that look like sun poisoning (only on hands and a few on my shins and ankles that is where the other spots have come up .  Cant find any reason for them allergy meds didnt work the tiny blisters go down but never fully go away and itch like crazy then the white spots show up. My doc says that there are no good treatments and just to apply sunscreen. I will try to find a naturopath maybe they can help I am new to all this so thanks for info.  The vit. groups at this point freak me out I dont want to see whats to come as this spreads. My dem thinks it will only stay in areas where the blisters are as she told me its not life threating and I needed to calm down. Uggh Thanks for this site it helps just to ramble to ppl who dont just blow it off with a so what!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so derm just got biopsy back that showed vit. but all she gave me was allergy pills that make me so sleepy and told me to stay out of the sun. I too have very low vit. D levels so they put me on 50,000 iu for 6 weeks then they will recheck levels.  My vit. started on vulva area found it during my annual female exam. Also on my hands i have little water blisters that look like sun poisoning (only on hands and a few on my shins and ankles that is where the other spots have come up .  Cant find any reason for them allergy meds didnt work the tiny blisters go down but never fully go away and itch like crazy then the white spots show up. My doc says that there are no good treatments and just to apply sunscreen. I will try to find a naturopath maybe they can help I am new to all this so thanks for info.  The vit. groups at this point freak me out I dont want to see whats to come as this spreads. My dem thinks it will only stay in areas where the blisters are as she told me its not life threating and I needed to calm down. Uggh Thanks for this site it helps just to ramble to ppl who dont just blow it off with a so what!</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer Carr</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-39109</link>
		<dc:creator>jennifer Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 01:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok....I only have a second to type, but want to say thank you for this blog. I have Vitiligo on my forehead, neck &amp; hip. This is very unfortunate as I work as a cocktail waitress where the whole club is lit up with black lights =( It also doesn&#039;t help that I have halo moles that also leads to total loss of pigmentation =( It&#039;s a daily/nightly job for me to put on a fake tanner or the most recent of my purchases Chromelin complexion blender. I can deal with this for now, but am looking to go to the doctor for some vitamin  deficiency testing. These tests are expensive so I need to know if anyone knows what supposed vitamin d deficiency to test for: 1,25 dihydroxy or Vitamin d 25 hydroxy. B1, B6, B12 ?  I need any and all advice please. Also after doing the test I would like to try a regimen that has worked for someone else. Alot of the talk on here when it comes to product names &amp; terms just comes through to me as mumbo jumbo &amp; gets me more confused on where to go next in trying to fight this. I thought about trying the Tyrosine, but not sure how much to take &amp; if I should do anything topical as well??? Or just start with that?? SEE!!!! I need some guidance pleeeease. I really appreciate any &amp; all opinions. Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230;.I only have a second to type, but want to say thank you for this blog. I have Vitiligo on my forehead, neck &amp; hip. This is very unfortunate as I work as a cocktail waitress where the whole club is lit up with black lights =( It also doesn&#8217;t help that I have halo moles that also leads to total loss of pigmentation =( It&#8217;s a daily/nightly job for me to put on a fake tanner or the most recent of my purchases Chromelin complexion blender. I can deal with this for now, but am looking to go to the doctor for some vitamin  deficiency testing. These tests are expensive so I need to know if anyone knows what supposed vitamin d deficiency to test for: 1,25 dihydroxy or Vitamin d 25 hydroxy. B1, B6, B12 ?  I need any and all advice please. Also after doing the test I would like to try a regimen that has worked for someone else. Alot of the talk on here when it comes to product names &amp; terms just comes through to me as mumbo jumbo &amp; gets me more confused on where to go next in trying to fight this. I thought about trying the Tyrosine, but not sure how much to take &amp; if I should do anything topical as well??? Or just start with that?? SEE!!!! I need some guidance pleeeease. I really appreciate any &amp; all opinions. Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: rachel</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-39105</link>
		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 03:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another vitiligo sufferer here. Some of my history: had it for about 20 years now – since my early teens. Yes after a stressful time in my life. None of my 3 siblings suffer from it. I do have extended relatives with thyroid issues; I haven’t had issues but also haven’t been tested. Over the years I’ve seen countless doctors and did most of the treatments they recommended – creams, narrow band light treatments for years, etc. Little results. They each recommended different treatments (with or without sun exposure) and most said that my case isn’t that bad (which it isn’t) and that I should count myself lucky. It is difficult to feel lucky with this cosmetic disease that makes me hide my affected areas. Then I got pregnant with my son last year and actually got the best re-pigmentation I’ve ever had. Pre-natal pills maybe? I really thought – these last 20 years all I had to do to cure my vitiligo was get pregnant! No such luck. No further progress after his birth even staying on the pills. I have never perfected self tanning lotion for a cover up. It either doesn’t cover or looks too orange by the time I apply enough coats. Perhaps I will start vitamin d and hope for the best.  I too have terrible days with vit and dread waking up with new spots.  I’m hopeful that Australia company developing that tanning implant will be successful!

Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories and their treatments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another vitiligo sufferer here. Some of my history: had it for about 20 years now – since my early teens. Yes after a stressful time in my life. None of my 3 siblings suffer from it. I do have extended relatives with thyroid issues; I haven’t had issues but also haven’t been tested. Over the years I’ve seen countless doctors and did most of the treatments they recommended – creams, narrow band light treatments for years, etc. Little results. They each recommended different treatments (with or without sun exposure) and most said that my case isn’t that bad (which it isn’t) and that I should count myself lucky. It is difficult to feel lucky with this cosmetic disease that makes me hide my affected areas. Then I got pregnant with my son last year and actually got the best re-pigmentation I’ve ever had. Pre-natal pills maybe? I really thought – these last 20 years all I had to do to cure my vitiligo was get pregnant! No such luck. No further progress after his birth even staying on the pills. I have never perfected self tanning lotion for a cover up. It either doesn’t cover or looks too orange by the time I apply enough coats. Perhaps I will start vitamin d and hope for the best.  I too have terrible days with vit and dread waking up with new spots.  I’m hopeful that Australia company developing that tanning implant will be successful!</p>
<p>Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories and their treatments!</p>
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		<title>By: pawan</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-39065</link>
		<dc:creator>pawan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I first noticed it near my groin area when I was 8 or 9 and showed to my mom who said to just ignore it, but I could see she was upset and I did not mention it again. My younger brother had developed it as a 2 year old, in response to a severe and for a long time mis-diagnosed ear infection. nearly 40% of his body developed spots..including...forearms, feet, back, legs, chest and scalp. Being indians I guess we were lucky that we have good holistic medicine practitioners. Mom did not trust the allopathic doctors seeing how they had mishandled my brothers ear infection for the longest time resulting in him unnecessarily getting 16 penicillin injections in less than a week! Papa was in the army, and someone told mom of an elderly person from the lower ranks...a subedaar or something. He was called Ram Munshi Baba and was a bit renowned as a naturopath ..a local herb doctor so to say. Mom took my brother to him. He correctly diagnosed the condition as leukoderma as it was more commonly called then. He also told mom why my bro had developed an ear infection, and it seemed the cause was that many times he slept while drinking milk and the drool would float down to his ear and this got ignored and an infection developed. He told some simple remedy including keeping the area dry and my bro was fine. I was just 5 then but I remember that in that year my religiously followed this baba&#039;s advice and to cheer up my bro who was just a baby I would also many times undergo the treatment. It was almost like a mission with my mom and being kids our mom could really discipline us. Hats off to her. My Papa (men are always unwise and impatient..sorry but it&#039;s true) interrupted my brother&#039;s treatment after 11 months..he got influenced by the convent sisters who were appalled that my bro (who was utterly cute and everyone&#039;s universal cuddable darling) refused to accept the toffees they offered him saying, my mom has told me no. They came home and told my Papa to go to Kerala (their native city) and try ayurveda. My Pa got swayed..fought with mom and took my bro their with result that my bro&#039;s condition which had improved 90% just stopped there and then for almost 2 decades. Now he is married...and 1 year post his marriage his 4 small spots on feet (two on each foot) and 1 on back just vanished! My bro also was never as sensitive as me. But I digress. Let me tell what was the system of cure my mom followed. This Ram Munshi Baba (now we don&#039;t know where he is..he was almost 50 some 25 years back) told mom that this condition occurs due to blood impurity and therefore total internal cleansing is required.

So a very strict regimen started for whole family. That way my mom is a super woman and very strong. Once she determines to do something she will carry it through. My bro had to stop all salt and sugar totally. TOTALLY. Most days then even me and Papa ate saltless food just so my bro won&#039;t cry. Actually one gets used to it. Then he was not to eat anything white. All milk and curd, mom would put a touch of turmeric. I many times would drink the same milk (though I hated milk and usually puked it out) telling my brother it was custard. Sometimes I feel kids are great troopers. Banana was allowed once or twice a week but as a camouflage to administer deworming. Hing (asafoetida) granule was pressed in the banana and mom would make us swallow the banana. Everyday in the morning we drank Spinach juice followed by 1 spoon of honey. Everyday morning and evening one spoon of Neem and Ginger juice followed by quicly putting teaspoon of honey in mouth as the juice is BITTER and pinches the throat! No wheat. Totally. Chickpea floor roti&#039;s ( a flat fresh pan bread) were allowed. In india we call it Besan. Rice was allowed. To satisfy sweet craving mom always kept dry dates in our pockets along with walnuts and almonds. NO FRIED FOOD. NO NON VEG. NO EGG. Vitamin C was restricted. The doc said that once in a while some lemon juice could be sprinkled over the sprouts. Daily we had to eat one handful of sprouts. One helping of salad. And one fruit every evening. Could be Papaya, coconut, apple, pear etc. Besides this once a week we both..I only so my bro would not wail..were given mud baths. The mud was red in color and gotten from snake pit which some army fellows and local labourers procured for us. This mud was dissolved in tub..we were dipped in it and then had to wait precisely 30 mins..becuase this mud has ability to absorb bodies toxins but releases them after 30 mins. Then we were washed. Being kids nudity was not an issue. Getting doused on the terrace with a pipe was the fun part. 2-3 times a week..mom would put us both in huge polythenes on a mat out in the sun...put woolen plankets on top of us and cold wet towel on our face and tell us stories and encourage us to endure for 30 mins. She would change the wet towel to keep our heads cool and prevent sun stroke. When we got up almost a kilo or more of sweat collected in the polythene. My bro also used to get regular enema. All this and more I guess. I don&#039;t why after decades I am recounting this. The result was that my brother started developing brown spots that joined together. His hair grew black again and by the time Papa jeopardized my brother was 95% cured actually. Then when I was 11 I noticed a spot appearing under my right eye. I remember going to my parents when I noticed but they brushed me away, until the spot formed full and white and they could not ignore. I know they were distressed. It was DEPRESSING for me. I was not 3, I was 11 ...almost 12. I felt like..marked. Like fate was punishing me for some crime I could not understand. I became fatalistic and also I always used to be at war with mom then so I NEVER listened to her. She also had no will left to battle me. I have never to this day followed a course of treatment. My mom has tried over the years to get me on a saltless natural, raw food diet..But after 10-15 days I give up. It&#039;s not her fault..but I somehow ..I don&#039;t know why I cannot follow. I just fail and get excessively moody. Some weeks later I developed a small finger tip sized spot on my left collarbone. Then months later on my right eyelid and right foreleg. That for some strange reason propelled me to for a period of two weeks to really follow mom&#039;s advice. She made me take bakuchi powder morning and evening and apply bakuchi oil and expose to sun for 5 mins daily.The spot on leg and right eyelid vanished within 2 weeks but the original spot below right eye just got itchy and flaked and same with one on collar bone. Mom said those are very sensitive areas blood does not reach well. Oh yes I forgot...regular massage of spot first with wet cotton cloth and then with dry is part of treatment. Then no more spots appeared. Now for last 18 years I live with these spots. I have never sincerely tried any treatment. No further spots appeared though I went grey in my head at 14! BUT I became a recluse as a teenager. I felt so angry and sad..Like god was deliberately making me unlucky. Now I live with the spots. MOST people tell me they don&#039;t notice my spots. Infact a lot of friends know me for years before they ask me one day in surprise whether I burned myself under the eye and I always tell them no it&#039;s a white spot..and how come u never noticed? They always seem shocked and say they never did. Most days it is pinkish so I guess it does not stand out. The one on the collar stays hidden by clothes..and I feel very insecure about it so I wear V necks or round necks mostly. Only at home with mom or Pa do I relax and don&#039;t worry if it shows. EVERYONE tells me I am crazy and I agree with them intellectually BUT I still feel abnormal. Maybe very few will understand why I am so pessimistic about it. To the point that every doc from regular and holistic medicine I have met have told me that mine is the most minor case they have ever seen and I should get cured w/in 2-3 months but everytime I abandon the treatment in 2-3 weeks. I think I have a problem of moodiness and depression. Dunno..BUT I am frustrated. Now my mom says I am so big..she can&#039;t spank me and make me listen. I will have to be self motivated. I agree with her but have not been able to make a change. And that Ram Munshi Baba had told mom that when we try holistic medicine body changes from the inside and no surface improvement can be detected for 90 days! 90 days seems so long and yet I almost avoided a 90 day regimen for 19 years! I can see what a crazy idiot I am. I am actually writing this to vent out my frustrtaion with myself and figure out what the hell is my mental block. God give me some sense!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first noticed it near my groin area when I was 8 or 9 and showed to my mom who said to just ignore it, but I could see she was upset and I did not mention it again. My younger brother had developed it as a 2 year old, in response to a severe and for a long time mis-diagnosed ear infection. nearly 40% of his body developed spots..including&#8230;forearms, feet, back, legs, chest and scalp. Being indians I guess we were lucky that we have good holistic medicine practitioners. Mom did not trust the allopathic doctors seeing how they had mishandled my brothers ear infection for the longest time resulting in him unnecessarily getting 16 penicillin injections in less than a week! Papa was in the army, and someone told mom of an elderly person from the lower ranks&#8230;a subedaar or something. He was called Ram Munshi Baba and was a bit renowned as a naturopath ..a local herb doctor so to say. Mom took my brother to him. He correctly diagnosed the condition as leukoderma as it was more commonly called then. He also told mom why my bro had developed an ear infection, and it seemed the cause was that many times he slept while drinking milk and the drool would float down to his ear and this got ignored and an infection developed. He told some simple remedy including keeping the area dry and my bro was fine. I was just 5 then but I remember that in that year my religiously followed this baba&#8217;s advice and to cheer up my bro who was just a baby I would also many times undergo the treatment. It was almost like a mission with my mom and being kids our mom could really discipline us. Hats off to her. My Papa (men are always unwise and impatient..sorry but it&#8217;s true) interrupted my brother&#8217;s treatment after 11 months..he got influenced by the convent sisters who were appalled that my bro (who was utterly cute and everyone&#8217;s universal cuddable darling) refused to accept the toffees they offered him saying, my mom has told me no. They came home and told my Papa to go to Kerala (their native city) and try ayurveda. My Pa got swayed..fought with mom and took my bro their with result that my bro&#8217;s condition which had improved 90% just stopped there and then for almost 2 decades. Now he is married&#8230;and 1 year post his marriage his 4 small spots on feet (two on each foot) and 1 on back just vanished! My bro also was never as sensitive as me. But I digress. Let me tell what was the system of cure my mom followed. This Ram Munshi Baba (now we don&#8217;t know where he is..he was almost 50 some 25 years back) told mom that this condition occurs due to blood impurity and therefore total internal cleansing is required.</p>
<p>So a very strict regimen started for whole family. That way my mom is a super woman and very strong. Once she determines to do something she will carry it through. My bro had to stop all salt and sugar totally. TOTALLY. Most days then even me and Papa ate saltless food just so my bro won&#8217;t cry. Actually one gets used to it. Then he was not to eat anything white. All milk and curd, mom would put a touch of turmeric. I many times would drink the same milk (though I hated milk and usually puked it out) telling my brother it was custard. Sometimes I feel kids are great troopers. Banana was allowed once or twice a week but as a camouflage to administer deworming. Hing (asafoetida) granule was pressed in the banana and mom would make us swallow the banana. Everyday in the morning we drank Spinach juice followed by 1 spoon of honey. Everyday morning and evening one spoon of Neem and Ginger juice followed by quicly putting teaspoon of honey in mouth as the juice is BITTER and pinches the throat! No wheat. Totally. Chickpea floor roti&#8217;s ( a flat fresh pan bread) were allowed. In india we call it Besan. Rice was allowed. To satisfy sweet craving mom always kept dry dates in our pockets along with walnuts and almonds. NO FRIED FOOD. NO NON VEG. NO EGG. Vitamin C was restricted. The doc said that once in a while some lemon juice could be sprinkled over the sprouts. Daily we had to eat one handful of sprouts. One helping of salad. And one fruit every evening. Could be Papaya, coconut, apple, pear etc. Besides this once a week we both..I only so my bro would not wail..were given mud baths. The mud was red in color and gotten from snake pit which some army fellows and local labourers procured for us. This mud was dissolved in tub..we were dipped in it and then had to wait precisely 30 mins..becuase this mud has ability to absorb bodies toxins but releases them after 30 mins. Then we were washed. Being kids nudity was not an issue. Getting doused on the terrace with a pipe was the fun part. 2-3 times a week..mom would put us both in huge polythenes on a mat out in the sun&#8230;put woolen plankets on top of us and cold wet towel on our face and tell us stories and encourage us to endure for 30 mins. She would change the wet towel to keep our heads cool and prevent sun stroke. When we got up almost a kilo or more of sweat collected in the polythene. My bro also used to get regular enema. All this and more I guess. I don&#8217;t why after decades I am recounting this. The result was that my brother started developing brown spots that joined together. His hair grew black again and by the time Papa jeopardized my brother was 95% cured actually. Then when I was 11 I noticed a spot appearing under my right eye. I remember going to my parents when I noticed but they brushed me away, until the spot formed full and white and they could not ignore. I know they were distressed. It was DEPRESSING for me. I was not 3, I was 11 &#8230;almost 12. I felt like..marked. Like fate was punishing me for some crime I could not understand. I became fatalistic and also I always used to be at war with mom then so I NEVER listened to her. She also had no will left to battle me. I have never to this day followed a course of treatment. My mom has tried over the years to get me on a saltless natural, raw food diet..But after 10-15 days I give up. It&#8217;s not her fault..but I somehow ..I don&#8217;t know why I cannot follow. I just fail and get excessively moody. Some weeks later I developed a small finger tip sized spot on my left collarbone. Then months later on my right eyelid and right foreleg. That for some strange reason propelled me to for a period of two weeks to really follow mom&#8217;s advice. She made me take bakuchi powder morning and evening and apply bakuchi oil and expose to sun for 5 mins daily.The spot on leg and right eyelid vanished within 2 weeks but the original spot below right eye just got itchy and flaked and same with one on collar bone. Mom said those are very sensitive areas blood does not reach well. Oh yes I forgot&#8230;regular massage of spot first with wet cotton cloth and then with dry is part of treatment. Then no more spots appeared. Now for last 18 years I live with these spots. I have never sincerely tried any treatment. No further spots appeared though I went grey in my head at 14! BUT I became a recluse as a teenager. I felt so angry and sad..Like god was deliberately making me unlucky. Now I live with the spots. MOST people tell me they don&#8217;t notice my spots. Infact a lot of friends know me for years before they ask me one day in surprise whether I burned myself under the eye and I always tell them no it&#8217;s a white spot..and how come u never noticed? They always seem shocked and say they never did. Most days it is pinkish so I guess it does not stand out. The one on the collar stays hidden by clothes..and I feel very insecure about it so I wear V necks or round necks mostly. Only at home with mom or Pa do I relax and don&#8217;t worry if it shows. EVERYONE tells me I am crazy and I agree with them intellectually BUT I still feel abnormal. Maybe very few will understand why I am so pessimistic about it. To the point that every doc from regular and holistic medicine I have met have told me that mine is the most minor case they have ever seen and I should get cured w/in 2-3 months but everytime I abandon the treatment in 2-3 weeks. I think I have a problem of moodiness and depression. Dunno..BUT I am frustrated. Now my mom says I am so big..she can&#8217;t spank me and make me listen. I will have to be self motivated. I agree with her but have not been able to make a change. And that Ram Munshi Baba had told mom that when we try holistic medicine body changes from the inside and no surface improvement can be detected for 90 days! 90 days seems so long and yet I almost avoided a 90 day regimen for 19 years! I can see what a crazy idiot I am. I am actually writing this to vent out my frustrtaion with myself and figure out what the hell is my mental block. God give me some sense!</p>
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		<title>By: HealVitiligo.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi :).... I have Segmental Vitiligo on my face and I too noticed that my Vitiligo worsen when I stress. and I do experience itching on the spot for a few days before the patch turns white. I also have a blog that documents my journey to heal my Vitiligo, I hope it will go away eventually :)
Do check it out if you have time http://www.healvitiligo.com
Cheers,
HealVitiligo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi <img src='http://ziamunshi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230;. I have Segmental Vitiligo on my face and I too noticed that my Vitiligo worsen when I stress. and I do experience itching on the spot for a few days before the patch turns white. I also have a blog that documents my journey to heal my Vitiligo, I hope it will go away eventually <img src='http://ziamunshi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Do check it out if you have time <a href="http://www.healvitiligo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.healvitiligo.com</a><br />
Cheers,<br />
HealVitiligo.com</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-39042</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Zia,

Wonderful research and blog, thank you!  I have had vitiligo for about 20 years, slowly spreading, and I have just recently started re-pigmenting while I was pregnant.  My dermatologist told me that it was the body&#039;s suppression of the immune system, not to get my hopes up, but here I am two kids later, the youngest is 15 months old and I am still re-pigmenting.  My forearms and legs mostly, getting little light brown spots and then more that link together, and now the upper chest area.  My face not as much, at least I don&#039;t see much improvement.  I had taken pre-natals for the past 3 years, on and off, otherwise nothing else.  I do take my synthroid, .088, and had spent the past 8 months in a mostly sunny area, which could have affected my vit D levels.  I was just wondering what could have caused this partial slow but steady re-pigmentation, and how can I avoid loosing it.  Now we moved to Detroit, not a sunny spot, and I&#039;m scared of starting to de-pigment again.  My sister, is also afflicted by vit, and we both started getting it after a terrible emotional stress.  Sorry to ramble on, I just wanted to share with you, maybe we can all put our heads together and find some sort of cure.  
Best to you, and thank you again for everything.
Angela</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zia,</p>
<p>Wonderful research and blog, thank you!  I have had vitiligo for about 20 years, slowly spreading, and I have just recently started re-pigmenting while I was pregnant.  My dermatologist told me that it was the body&#8217;s suppression of the immune system, not to get my hopes up, but here I am two kids later, the youngest is 15 months old and I am still re-pigmenting.  My forearms and legs mostly, getting little light brown spots and then more that link together, and now the upper chest area.  My face not as much, at least I don&#8217;t see much improvement.  I had taken pre-natals for the past 3 years, on and off, otherwise nothing else.  I do take my synthroid, .088, and had spent the past 8 months in a mostly sunny area, which could have affected my vit D levels.  I was just wondering what could have caused this partial slow but steady re-pigmentation, and how can I avoid loosing it.  Now we moved to Detroit, not a sunny spot, and I&#8217;m scared of starting to de-pigment again.  My sister, is also afflicted by vit, and we both started getting it after a terrible emotional stress.  Sorry to ramble on, I just wanted to share with you, maybe we can all put our heads together and find some sort of cure.<br />
Best to you, and thank you again for everything.<br />
Angela</p>
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		<title>By: Sher</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-39034</link>
		<dc:creator>Sher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Zia,

You mentioned having &quot;pigmentation weirdness&quot; on your face, which is only noticeable if you look hard enough. I am in a similar situation, where I&#039;ve been to three different dermatologists - two aren&#039;t completely convinced it&#039;s vit, one was. Regardless, I have lighter areas (bigger than spots) emerging and spreading on my forehead, top of my head (I shave my head bald), around my eyes and have recently noticed lightening on my forearms.

One derm I went to simply recommending I &quot;wait and see&quot; how it develops, but I refuse to sit idle and watch my skin get lighter and lighter (I&#039;m Filipino, so can get a nice brown). I&#039;ve started UVB twice a week, take many of the supplements I&#039;ve read about and am trying to be very, very patient.

My question for you is: what does the &quot;pigmentation weirdness&quot; on your face look like? Small dots? Larger areas that are light, but not white? Do the areas grow in size and spread? I guess from what I&#039;ve read online and photos I&#039;ve seen, vit emerge more as small circles that show up and grow and eventually connect.

This has all been a frustrating mystery for me (and my dermatologists)...I&#039;m a fellow Seattle-ite and I&#039;ve noticed more and more cases of vit when I&#039;m out and about.

Cheers and thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zia,</p>
<p>You mentioned having &#8220;pigmentation weirdness&#8221; on your face, which is only noticeable if you look hard enough. I am in a similar situation, where I&#8217;ve been to three different dermatologists &#8211; two aren&#8217;t completely convinced it&#8217;s vit, one was. Regardless, I have lighter areas (bigger than spots) emerging and spreading on my forehead, top of my head (I shave my head bald), around my eyes and have recently noticed lightening on my forearms.</p>
<p>One derm I went to simply recommending I &#8220;wait and see&#8221; how it develops, but I refuse to sit idle and watch my skin get lighter and lighter (I&#8217;m Filipino, so can get a nice brown). I&#8217;ve started UVB twice a week, take many of the supplements I&#8217;ve read about and am trying to be very, very patient.</p>
<p>My question for you is: what does the &#8220;pigmentation weirdness&#8221; on your face look like? Small dots? Larger areas that are light, but not white? Do the areas grow in size and spread? I guess from what I&#8217;ve read online and photos I&#8217;ve seen, vit emerge more as small circles that show up and grow and eventually connect.</p>
<p>This has all been a frustrating mystery for me (and my dermatologists)&#8230;I&#8217;m a fellow Seattle-ite and I&#8217;ve noticed more and more cases of vit when I&#8217;m out and about.</p>
<p>Cheers and thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Zia</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-39010</link>
		<dc:creator>Zia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh. I am SO behind on comments, aren&#039;t I? My apologies. My blog has been overrun with all the chicken posts. 

Dee, stress is one of the contributing factors. It&#039;s great to hear that you&#039;ve found a way to live with it. Dianna, it&#039;s interesting to me about your hands itching. This is probably way, way too much information, but at least it&#039;s down in the comments, right? My vitiligo seems to be fairly stable--except in the groin area. And for the past year and a half, I&#039;ve had chronic itching, off and on, to the point that I was convinced that I had lichen sclerosis. I still worry, though my doctor says no. And I can see the areas of depigmentation, and that the itch has moved to what is currently depigmenting. It kind of freaks me out. It&#039;s also not terribly comfortable. Fortunately, the only person who ever sees this is my partner, and it doesn&#039;t bother him in the slightest. Have heart too--I felt like my spots were getting worse on the protopic before they got better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh. I am SO behind on comments, aren&#8217;t I? My apologies. My blog has been overrun with all the chicken posts. </p>
<p>Dee, stress is one of the contributing factors. It&#8217;s great to hear that you&#8217;ve found a way to live with it. Dianna, it&#8217;s interesting to me about your hands itching. This is probably way, way too much information, but at least it&#8217;s down in the comments, right? My vitiligo seems to be fairly stable&#8211;except in the groin area. And for the past year and a half, I&#8217;ve had chronic itching, off and on, to the point that I was convinced that I had lichen sclerosis. I still worry, though my doctor says no. And I can see the areas of depigmentation, and that the itch has moved to what is currently depigmenting. It kind of freaks me out. It&#8217;s also not terribly comfortable. Fortunately, the only person who ever sees this is my partner, and it doesn&#8217;t bother him in the slightest. Have heart too&#8211;I felt like my spots were getting worse on the protopic before they got better.</p>
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		<title>By: dianna Calfee</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-38622</link>
		<dc:creator>dianna Calfee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find your website very useful.   My endocrinologist informed me yesterday that you can take up to 4,000 units per day and if you over dose calcium will build up in your kidney and it will take about a month for your body to recuperate...  I just started taking 2,000 units per day and have been using protopic for 6 weeks.  I have had vitiligo for about 6 years and it is progressively getting worse.  I also have had thyroid disease for 26 years.  I have slightly high levels of triglycerides and bad chlosestrol.  I am other wise healthy.  I am keeping up the protopic, adding 2,000 units of Vit. D, increasing exercise and going on a low fat diet.  I currently take .100 synthroid daily.  My endocrinologist was very encouraging about the Vit D research...   In the past I have used different kinds of make-up to cover up the white spots.  My vitiligo started on my hands and I think it could have been a reaction to the gloves I was wearing that had  latex in them.  My hands itched so bad and then the white spots started.  Any comments on that info.  But since that time white spots have showed up all over my body and my fingers and hands are almost all white.  I also think stress played an important role in the acceleration of my vitiligo.  So,  I have just retired after 31 years in the field of education!  Thanks for any comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find your website very useful.   My endocrinologist informed me yesterday that you can take up to 4,000 units per day and if you over dose calcium will build up in your kidney and it will take about a month for your body to recuperate&#8230;  I just started taking 2,000 units per day and have been using protopic for 6 weeks.  I have had vitiligo for about 6 years and it is progressively getting worse.  I also have had thyroid disease for 26 years.  I have slightly high levels of triglycerides and bad chlosestrol.  I am other wise healthy.  I am keeping up the protopic, adding 2,000 units of Vit. D, increasing exercise and going on a low fat diet.  I currently take .100 synthroid daily.  My endocrinologist was very encouraging about the Vit D research&#8230;   In the past I have used different kinds of make-up to cover up the white spots.  My vitiligo started on my hands and I think it could have been a reaction to the gloves I was wearing that had  latex in them.  My hands itched so bad and then the white spots started.  Any comments on that info.  But since that time white spots have showed up all over my body and my fingers and hands are almost all white.  I also think stress played an important role in the acceleration of my vitiligo.  So,  I have just retired after 31 years in the field of education!  Thanks for any comments</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-38548</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the informaiton Zia.  

Just curious - I am also wondering if anyone else has been told that Vitiligo is stress induced, or may be able to rationalize the body&#039;s reaction to stress in relation to the body&#039;s development of Vitiligo?

On another note, I have been using a self-tanning lotion (the CVS generic brand) to cover the white spots on my face for many years now and it works great!!!  This is what you call a gradual tanning lotion in that it takes several hours to see the effects of the application.  I am very fair skinned and use the light-medium lotion in the winter and the medium-dark tan lotion in the summer.  I apply it very precisely (only to the affected spots) with a q-tip every day.  I have learned how much to use for my skin and have had to adjust the application some.  I very rarely wear makeup and you can barely tell that I have vitiligo all over my face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the informaiton Zia.  </p>
<p>Just curious &#8211; I am also wondering if anyone else has been told that Vitiligo is stress induced, or may be able to rationalize the body&#8217;s reaction to stress in relation to the body&#8217;s development of Vitiligo?</p>
<p>On another note, I have been using a self-tanning lotion (the CVS generic brand) to cover the white spots on my face for many years now and it works great!!!  This is what you call a gradual tanning lotion in that it takes several hours to see the effects of the application.  I am very fair skinned and use the light-medium lotion in the winter and the medium-dark tan lotion in the summer.  I apply it very precisely (only to the affected spots) with a q-tip every day.  I have learned how much to use for my skin and have had to adjust the application some.  I very rarely wear makeup and you can barely tell that I have vitiligo all over my face.</p>
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		<title>By: Zia</title>
		<link>http://ziamunshi.com/2007/08/on-the-general-lack-of-vitiligo-information/#comment-38546</link>
		<dc:creator>Zia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dee,

First, I&#039;m sorry that you&#039;re going through what you&#039;re going through. It sucks. 

Okay, I have to say this, and I&#039;m sorry you&#039;re on the receiving end of this.But it drives me crazy when people ask me for dosage advise. I can and have on this blog tell you what I take (well, have taken), what has worked for me, and my general observations. But ultimately, I am not a health care professional. I cannot possibly tell you how much vitamin D to take.

I would encourage you either to visit a good naturopathic doctor or dermatologist/doctor who is open to &quot;alternative&quot; therapies (vitamins!) and get tested--and by that I mean complete bloodwork. Not all people with vitiligo have the exact same profile; some are deficient in vitamin D, some are deficient in B vitamins, some in copper .... The best way to find a solution for your particular body is to test your particular body. 

If the cost is untenable right now, there&#039;s some good information here along with low-cost vitamin D tests:
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/deficiency/am-i-vitamin-d-deficient.shtml

Protopic doesn&#039;t work for everyone, and it takes a while to get going. A month and a half is actually not that much time. I would keep using it.

I have no idea on the sunbed, but really, sunbeds just frighten me. I would probably avoid them in favor of just some unprotected exposure to the sun. Best yet, that&#039;s free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dee,</p>
<p>First, I&#8217;m sorry that you&#8217;re going through what you&#8217;re going through. It sucks. </p>
<p>Okay, I have to say this, and I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;re on the receiving end of this.But it drives me crazy when people ask me for dosage advise. I can and have on this blog tell you what I take (well, have taken), what has worked for me, and my general observations. But ultimately, I am not a health care professional. I cannot possibly tell you how much vitamin D to take.</p>
<p>I would encourage you either to visit a good naturopathic doctor or dermatologist/doctor who is open to &#8220;alternative&#8221; therapies (vitamins!) and get tested&#8211;and by that I mean complete bloodwork. Not all people with vitiligo have the exact same profile; some are deficient in vitamin D, some are deficient in B vitamins, some in copper &#8230;. The best way to find a solution for your particular body is to test your particular body. </p>
<p>If the cost is untenable right now, there&#8217;s some good information here along with low-cost vitamin D tests:<br />
<a href="http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/deficiency/am-i-vitamin-d-deficient.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/deficiency/am-i-vitamin-d-deficient.shtml</a></p>
<p>Protopic doesn&#8217;t work for everyone, and it takes a while to get going. A month and a half is actually not that much time. I would keep using it.</p>
<p>I have no idea on the sunbed, but really, sunbeds just frighten me. I would probably avoid them in favor of just some unprotected exposure to the sun. Best yet, that&#8217;s free.</p>
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